Comments on: FT5: Disappointing Albums Of 2008 http://austintownhall.com/2008/12/05/ft5-disappointing-albums-of-2008/ The Live Music Capital Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:25:14 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Covert Curiosity http://austintownhall.com/2008/12/05/ft5-disappointing-albums-of-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1900 Covert Curiosity Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:32:23 +0000 http://austintownhall.com/?p=2073#comment-1900 Sadly, I agree with this list. Sadly, I agree with this list.

]]> By: amb http://austintownhall.com/2008/12/05/ft5-disappointing-albums-of-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1812 amb Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:31:35 +0000 http://austintownhall.com/?p=2073#comment-1812 Great post! As a KOL fan that jumped on the bandwagon way late in the game, I for one really liked that I was able to understand what they were saying when listening their songs, and I liked the "musicianship" even more. That being said, unfortunately I'm not sure I think the lyrics off of Only By The Night are anything worth hearing. Because the lyrics are pretty ridiculous, I think the songs as a whole come out to be great background music at a good bar: they'll keep energy up and hold the mood, but you don't have to listen to what they're saying. As for Ryan Adams, I have kinda given up on him since he cleaned things up in his personal life. I liked some of Easy Tiger, but have mostly given into the idea that I'll be listening to Jacksonville City Nights for the Ryan Adams that I fell in love with. Thankfully, I never get tired of that. I'm not sure if I am more impressed by the controversy this post caused or by the sudden presence emoticons have in ATH these days!? Great post!

As a KOL fan that jumped on the bandwagon way late in the game, I for one really liked that I was able to understand what they were saying when listening their songs, and I liked the “musicianship” even more. That being said, unfortunately I’m not sure I think the lyrics off of Only By The Night are anything worth hearing. Because the lyrics are pretty ridiculous, I think the songs as a whole come out to be great background music at a good bar: they’ll keep energy up and hold the mood, but you don’t have to listen to what they’re saying.

As for Ryan Adams, I have kinda given up on him since he cleaned things up in his personal life. I liked some of Easy Tiger, but have mostly given into the idea that I’ll be listening to Jacksonville City Nights for the Ryan Adams that I fell in love with. Thankfully, I never get tired of that.

I’m not sure if I am more impressed by the controversy this post caused or by the sudden presence emoticons have in ATH these days!?

]]> By: Greg http://austintownhall.com/2008/12/05/ft5-disappointing-albums-of-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1809 Greg Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:53:23 +0000 http://austintownhall.com/?p=2073#comment-1809 The south is not lost with KOL...sounds like the southern support is lost. 'Because of the Times' sounded Hollywood. I think they got back on track and you can hear their early influence much more clear this latest album. But you can also hear why these guys opened for U2 when nobody, especially in the southern US cared about them: Uber talent. This is the best band of our generation and yes there is a struggle with record company influence, but they are finally being accepted in this country and they will stand up for their roots. The beards will return and this band can only get better. The south is not lost with KOL…sounds like the southern support is lost. ‘Because of the Times’ sounded Hollywood. I think they got back on track and you can hear their early influence much more clear this latest album. But you can also hear why these guys opened for U2 when nobody, especially in the southern US cared about them: Uber talent. This is the best band of our generation and yes there is a struggle with record company influence, but they are finally being accepted in this country and they will stand up for their roots. The beards will return and this band can only get better.

]]> By: raygun http://austintownhall.com/2008/12/05/ft5-disappointing-albums-of-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1807 raygun Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:06:22 +0000 http://austintownhall.com/?p=2073#comment-1807 King Tut: You win. King Tut:

You win.

]]> By: King Tut http://austintownhall.com/2008/12/05/ft5-disappointing-albums-of-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1806 King Tut Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:21:58 +0000 http://austintownhall.com/?p=2073#comment-1806 Chinese Democracy. I'd been waiting since the fifth grade... Chinese Democracy. I’d been waiting since the fifth grade…

]]> By: Tan http://austintownhall.com/2008/12/05/ft5-disappointing-albums-of-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1805 Tan Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:03:06 +0000 http://austintownhall.com/?p=2073#comment-1805 Portishead -Third? Anyone? The last proper album they made was ELEVEN years ago. Expectations can (and did) grow mighty high with eleven years of anticipation. IMO this album trumps all in the disappointment column of 2008. Pitchfork can kiss my ass for giving it an 8.8. KOL at #2 is rather bold. Definitely belongs on the list, just not quite as high. It's obviously not the same KOL that lured me in, but I still enjoy a handful of the new tracks. I guess I'm hesitant to say I don't like what they've become until I'm certain they've "gone for the bucks" for good. If we never get the old KOL sound back, this album would be a turning point that absolutely deserves to be #2... it's just to early to say for me. Portishead -Third? Anyone? The last proper album they made was ELEVEN years ago. Expectations can (and did) grow mighty high with eleven years of anticipation. IMO this album trumps all in the disappointment column of 2008. Pitchfork can kiss my ass for giving it an 8.8.

KOL at #2 is rather bold. Definitely belongs on the list, just not quite as high. It’s obviously not the same KOL that lured me in, but I still enjoy a handful of the new tracks. I guess I’m hesitant to say I don’t like what they’ve become until I’m certain they’ve “gone for the bucks” for good. If we never get the old KOL sound back, this album would be a turning point that absolutely deserves to be #2… it’s just to early to say for me.

]]> By: RayRay http://austintownhall.com/2008/12/05/ft5-disappointing-albums-of-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1803 RayRay Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:24:57 +0000 http://austintownhall.com/?p=2073#comment-1803 We love the comments wendy. Many thanks for them, positive or negative. Check this excited, intense band: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su-PfHBuuV0&feature=PlayList&p=25B9515814447ACE&index=0 and tell me you really want this boring ass band not interested in what they are doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqck4IoWNNA&feature=PlayList&p=23C4D2F14C163D3B&index=0 Sorry, I just can't take this new thing they've got going. Thanks again for the comments :-) We love the comments wendy. Many thanks for them, positive or negative.
Check this excited, intense band:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su-PfHBuuV0&feature=PlayList&p=25B9515814447ACE&index=0

and tell me you really want this boring ass band not interested in what they are doing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqck4IoWNNA&feature=PlayList&p=23C4D2F14C163D3B&index=0

Sorry, I just can’t take this new thing they’ve got going. Thanks again for the comments :-)

]]> By: wendy http://austintownhall.com/2008/12/05/ft5-disappointing-albums-of-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1802 wendy Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:44:48 +0000 http://austintownhall.com/?p=2073#comment-1802 ok ok, you dont have to like KOL anymore if you dont want to...thats one less hipster know-it-all i have to deal with at their shows... ;) i do like your blog, i just enjoy disagreeing from time to time. the rest of this list is legit. ok ok, you dont have to like KOL anymore if you dont want to…thats one less hipster know-it-all i have to deal with at their shows… ;) i do like your blog, i just enjoy disagreeing from time to time. the rest of this list is legit.

]]> By: RayRay http://austintownhall.com/2008/12/05/ft5-disappointing-albums-of-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1801 RayRay Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:43:20 +0000 http://austintownhall.com/?p=2073#comment-1801 Oh and about Ryan Adams.. I really enjoyed Ryan's first two efforts with the Cardinals; Cold Roses & Jacksonville City Night. Those albums had some really solid country/rock songs with great lyrics and heartfelt hooks. This new album though has very little, if any, of those things. I think if you took the good songs off 29, Easy Tiger, and this new one, you would have a very solid album worthy to stand next to Ryan's previous work. His last 3 albums have had some good songs, but also some really crappy ones too. The man needs to self edit. Oh and about Ryan Adams.. I really enjoyed Ryan’s first two efforts with the Cardinals; Cold Roses & Jacksonville City Night. Those albums had some really solid country/rock songs with great lyrics and heartfelt hooks. This new album though has very little, if any, of those things. I think if you took the good songs off 29, Easy Tiger, and this new one, you would have a very solid album worthy to stand next to Ryan’s previous work. His last 3 albums have had some good songs, but also some really crappy ones too. The man needs to self edit.

]]> By: RayRay http://austintownhall.com/2008/12/05/ft5-disappointing-albums-of-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-1800 RayRay Sun, 07 Dec 2008 18:36:09 +0000 http://austintownhall.com/?p=2073#comment-1800 Yeah don't pull out the "we don't like it because it's mainstream" card. We like plenty of "mainstream" stuff. I listened to KOL and liked a few songs on it at first, but it just bores me to tears. Caleb was quoted as saying: "We made this album to make it big in the states". Soooo you basically made it to gain popularity? If that's your reason behind making music, then find a new job. Every friend I talked to that said they saw them in Austin said they just seem to have last some fire for what they are doing. I'll even go so far as to agree with you Wendy/Brett that the band has shown some great progress in musicianship and the album is very polished. I just don't think playing your instruments well and having nice production make this a good album. Hell if all you need is good musicianship and good production, shouldn't we be talking about that new Daughtry album right now? This was their sad and far too rushed attempt at trying to recreate Because of the Times and they failed with Snow Patrol sounding crap like "Use Somebody". Informal surveys tell me that fans who've been around from the beginning are completely alienated(me) and the new fans are middle school students. I don't think this band keeps it together for more than another couple years. Yeah don’t pull out the “we don’t like it because it’s mainstream” card. We like plenty of “mainstream” stuff. I listened to KOL and liked a few songs on it at first, but it just bores me to tears. Caleb was quoted as saying: “We made this album to make it big in the states”. Soooo you basically made it to gain popularity? If that’s your reason behind making music, then find a new job. Every friend I talked to that said they saw them in Austin said they just seem to have last some fire for what they are doing.

I’ll even go so far as to agree with you Wendy/Brett that the band has shown some great progress in musicianship and the album is very polished. I just don’t think playing your instruments well and having nice production make this a good album. Hell if all you need is good musicianship and good production, shouldn’t we be talking about that new Daughtry album right now? This was their sad and far too rushed attempt at trying to recreate Because of the Times and they failed with Snow Patrol sounding crap like “Use Somebody”. Informal surveys tell me that fans who’ve been around from the beginning are completely alienated(me) and the new fans are middle school students. I don’t think this band keeps it together for more than another couple years.

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